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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 08:21 PM PST 
Forum Issues: Code of Conduct

Dear CMY.
Check with your IT support to explore the possibility if you can block the IP address for those folks who are not in compliance with COC (Code of Conduct) for this forum. Otherwise need a "Moderator" functionality.

Food for thoughts!

ABCD replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 08:57 PM PST 

I agree 100% with Mr. Abu-Bakar

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 02:01 AM PST 

We use to have dozens of moderators and may start using them again.
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(61772)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 07:30 PM PST 
Options within the Budget of 50 Lac to construct 1 kanal house

Dear Respected experts and friends

During my recent visit to Pakistan , I got an opportunity to look into different schemes with a view to construct a house. I have checked the following schemes:

1)Bahria Nasheman
2) Central Park
3) AWT phase 2
4)Grand Avenue


let me share my experience with you about all these schemes

1) Bahria Nasheman: Situated on ferozpur road opposite of Central park but entry gate is about 1.0 Km inside fron ferozpur road. There were no 1 kanal plots only 8 marla and 5 marla. It has a very nice development and all the facilities were excellent. Many houses were constructed and people living there. I found it to be bit congested and it will be more when more houses will be built.The rate was 22-24lac for 5 marla and 29-36 for 8 marla. They were anticipating the rate to be increased to 26-28 by june for 5 marla and 32-40 for 8 marla.

2) Central Park: I have witnessed many improvements during my last visit in March. Lots of construction activity was going . Two different agents told me that it has now more than 400 houses where families are living.The approach was from main ferozpur road and commercial plazas were mushrooming on the main boulevard. I have spoken to few residetns there as I was keen to buy there and they all ahd positive views about it. It is very secure and gated community. The possession area plots were available from 39 to 65 in A block. and from 35 onwards in B block depends upon location.
The agents were very positive about the future of it. According to their point of view highly underprieced scheme and it has a potential to grow rapidly in near future. They were predicting and anticipating the price to be with in the range of 60 lac within a year for a canal. The 10 marla has many plots and price will not grow very rapidly. In short , good investment for 1 kanal or 2 kanal.

3)AWT phase 2: Big sort of deserted scheme and the development work was not very good. There were houses and the price range was between 32-55 lac depends upon the location.Due toa ring road interchange at ADA plot it has a huge potential to grow and prices may double (as per the information from dealers there).In my opinion, not an ideal place to built a house but good for investment.

4)Grand Avenue: Startegic location and next to Bahria Nasheman.Highly underrated and ignored scheme by investors with an access from main ferozpur road. The development work was in swing and quality of development was very good. The A block will be ready for possession in October 2015, because they have done the carpted roads in 70% of A block. Small gated community about 2 kM before central park. If the price of central park will appreciate than its price will appreciate too. The 1 kanal plot was available in the price range of 29-35 with installments on old bookings. They got their status clear from LDA (it is not anymore on Illegal list of LDA). It is underpriced and have a potential to give very positive gains.The quality of developed roads is at par with Bahria nasheman.

These were my observations and I did some investments in these socities as I felt the potential in these schemes and plots were on ground
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(61771)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 07:11 PM PST 
Investment in DHA

Brother CMY, all,

I have hard earned savings worth 13 million rupees which i would like to invest for 5 years in DHA Lahore. I would like to invest in commercial property to enable rental income for my retirement.

Probably my budget is short for a commercial investment in DHA ? One possible option could be to invest in Phase 7 - 4 Marla commercial or 1 Kanal residential plot ?

Your advice will help me to invest in the right property to secure my future. Thanks

Dr. Hina

Rahza replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 08:14 PM PST 

i am not a property expert or invest expert but wherever you invest...dont invest your full amount...be on safer side.

Faisal replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 08:21 PM PST 

Izmir Town there is Commercials Plot in 140 some of My Friend Checked 2 days back good investment too Dr.Check there and Secondly the In front of DHA Rahabar there are some Commercials Plots My friend purchased that too you can check that too.

SIM replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 08:26 PM PST 

I would suggest you Ph 5 M block or a good
location plot in Ph 7. Hopefully it will give you good return. The other option is to buy 1 Kanal and 10 marla plots in Ph 9 after ballot.

Habib replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 09:06 PM PST 

I think You are Mistaken, People are investing in Commercial not for renatal income but to get Capital Gain in Property, eg a Plaza Bluit on 8 Cror Land and 4 Cror Cost[1 Lakh per Month Mauintinace Tax etc], cant genertate Monthy rental to Justify its cost. The Investment in rental Property is Done that 8 Cror Plot can be sold in 12 Cror in 2,3 Yearsor so. As Lonmg as this trend will continue it will continue growing.
You make shops on certain Plots and your headache starts, rent not paid in time, Bill Not Paid , Business Flopped and tenant ran away leaiving furniture all things etc etc, It is Full time Job

I would Advise Buy a 10 M at certain prime
Location and start Ploy Clinic Make Chambers of Docs etc it is quite good for regular Income, Or a House at prime Location which can be divided in 2,3 Prtions can give you good renatl yield

Tahir replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 09:42 PM PST 

Habib is right.

imran replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 10:57 PM PST 

its all about brand name as DHA has strong brand name that is why even big companies are coming to DHA i heard that Daewoo is also working to facilitate its customers today they opened cargo & ticketing point at Y-block market.
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(61770)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:50 PM PST 

Why development charges of 5m phase 9 are too high? In phase8, these are 450,000 then why 700,000 in phase9?
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(61769)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:40 PM PST 
NFC 2

Dear Sir,

I want to ask you about NFC 2. I purchased a commercial plot in NFC 2 6 months back. Now i heard that LRR will be built on the same area and it will hurt commercial plots. Can you please suggest us that should we keep the plots with us or sale it out? what kind of affect LRR will create on NFC2 commercial?
Best Regards,

Wasim Akhtar replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 09:29 PM PST 

Farrukh Ijaz Bhai

I also have a commercial plot in the same area.
From where you got this information ? Did you visit area by yourself and found some signs of LRR there ?
Because the Real Estate Experts on this Forum are saying LRR would not disturb NFC-2 Commercial area. It might touch A-Block plots.

Regards,

NFC2 replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:16 PM PST 

Dealer are spreading these rumors so that they can convince you to sell your plots. Even some are saying that LRR can also effect Block B and E, just to create panic so that people sell their residential and commercial plots.
On the other hand if you visit Commercial area, same dealers are building plazas there on their own plots:))

Wasim Akhtar replied on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:24 AM PST 

Agreed with "NFC2". If you tell those dealers you want to buy then their story will be different.
One big dealer who has his office on NFC-2 main gate ( encroachment area on Multan Road ), he himself is building plaza in NFC-2 commercial area.

Thanks,

Jameel replied on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 01:48 AM PST 

NO this Is false news but this is Correct that there will be some revision of map again to accommodate LRR, But only Sundar side Boundary or Bahria side Boundary will be affected.
Interchange Loops may marginally affect few commercial plots. They will be adequately compensated, It depends what type of Loops are, made in order to decrease the cost GOP is going for Simple Interchanges, Not Like Abdulla Gul which is I KM in Diameter. Have a look of various previous designs of Interchanges in Google earth, and see How they can affect Commercial plots

Farrukh Ijaz replied on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 07:05 PM PST 

No i did not see it my self. But i heard from different dealers and yes may be they want to create some panic because if LRR withh not disturb it so these plots value can be doubled.
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(61768)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:24 PM PST 
Affidavit File of Phase 9

Dear CMY,
I bought a Phase 9 Affidavit File on 17th April, 2015 and got the intimation letter of same date. According to letter I will get allocation letter after 30 days (around 17th May, 2015) while balloting is on 15th.
Just need to know if this will be included in ballot or not. Need advice.
Regards,
Dr.Waseem

Ahmad replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:44 PM PST 

Dr Waseem..you dont need to worry..your file will be included in ballot.As your file/allocation no has been generated before 15 May 2015.Irrespective when you receive the original letter from DHA

Dr.Waseem replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:49 PM PST 

Thank You Ahmed Sahib, May Allah Bless You.
Very Informative and Decent Forum.
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(61766)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:32 PM PST 

Dear CMY,AA, Pray for your good health, Any idea about dha 7 balloting for the remaining files?
I heard, it may happen with dha 9. What are the chances and when it is likely to happen and the development charges?

Regards
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(61765)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:56 PM PST 
Sell phase-9 [10 marla] files or hold for a year?

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Hi,

I have 2 phase 9 files of 10 marla. I bought them 1 month back at price of 39 and paid 1lac charges. So they costed me 40 lac each.

I have ability to hold these for up to 2 years. But I want to know if that will be best choice to get good returns. Should I hold them and for how much time?

Or should I sell them now or after ballot and move my money somewhere else.

This is my first ever investment in real estate and LRE has been best source of information. Please advice what you would have done if you were in my scenario.

JazakaAllah.

Mohsin replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:58 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

I have the same question and your kind reply is really required.
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(61764)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:26 PM PST 

All friends are informed one guy is again playing games here today by posting fake questions like dealer said you will get 43 lacs out of 63 lacs after ballot etc.

He is also posting galyan and fatwey at same time here and praising himelf with more names. I have no choice but to delete all his posts with many names

or

you still want to see read all his posts and let him play with your kids and Pakistan future. He has nothing to lose because he dont have any thing but free time to disturb you me all of us.

It dont make any difference to me if DHA9 is up or down and dont care. For me money dont matter anymore. Seen done it all. No hunger left.

If I try to block his or other waley people posts Jameel Habib and Shahzad Qamar and other old friends posts get blocked too and they get frustrated. I dont have any energy left due to overworking my self to help people here and dont have free time to sort out and re post all blocked posts. Sorry I just cant do it.

You pick and tell me block all new posts to stop galyan postings and just post only rates updates

Dont block any thing leave it 100% open

Any 5 year old kid these days can go to an open forum like ours and post what ever they want. This guy by disturbing us all with all his non sense posts thinks he is some IT expert No way to stop people like these unless they themself start on their own. Allah ka khauf hi in ko seedi rah par la sakta hey.

MNI replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:48 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

Plz don’t stress too much over such idiots, people are not stupid and are well aware of such attention seeking individuals. Let this person post freely he/she/50-50 whatever the case will eventually tire out when no one pays any heed to nonsense !!

On a separate note, appreciate the input you put into this forum. Keep up the great work!!

Regards,

MNI

Zafar Iqbal replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:50 PM PST 

Its better if you delete posts from such people

Mohsin replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:57 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

Just Relax...

You earned a respect among many of us and we really appreciate your efforts. You must be facing such people in real life almost on daily basis and I am sure you know how to treat with them.

Regards,
Mohsin

Ahsan replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:57 PM PST 

Dear Respected CMY Sahib

You are doing a great job for all people by guiding them. This forum is active and we all are sharing our views and opinions and seeking advice from experts. I have no words to appreciate your and other forum members such as jameel sahib, Qamar and others inputs and analysis.

Malik replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:05 PM PST 

CMY Sahib, you are great man, dont worry about it, this forum is sensible enough because of your efforst to see DHANDLI whereever it is. we wish him good luck also.

CMY replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:06 PM PST 

By the time I see his posts to delete too many innocent friends have fallen in his trap and posted answers. than I feel so bad to delete their posts too. I dont want them to think my niyaat is bad and I am wrongly deleting my old friends posts. Once a post is blocked or deleted even sense able people here like Shazad Qamar get unhappy. See his post today. Shazad Qamar dont know yesterday I had blocked 22000 attempt to post on this page in massive DNS attack and spam attack and had to disable highly needed in critical time like this very important search function of this webpage. If i dont do blocks we cant stay online. If I block people get unhappy like this friend is. To me he is still a friend. He came here to this website to learn like me and make money too perhaps. what else could attract some to very boring subject of real estate. He is looking to buy property but at lower price.

This person was arguing with logic DHA9 will go down and he may buy lower. I was enjoying his posts too. Against his expectations DHA9 started to rise sharply and he started to use multi names to save hi ego or buy it lower. When I saw use of multi names tried to request few time here not to do this un fair play. When he didnt stop had no choice but to block or delete his posts. When I block his post other people important help requests get blocked too. And seeing that hurts me. I admit may be a bad evil or greedy person for this guy but what is the fault of all other 1000s who visited this webpage and were even reading his dozens of post in past few weeks.

Friend just wasted more than 1 hour of important time in this useless post. should have used it to reply to more ballot check inputs Its 4.17 am in Chicago and I am going to sleep now and leaving site almost un blocked entirely so he too can have his say. Dont want to be unfair to him.


Choudry Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
Info@LREPK.Com

bilal replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:16 PM PST 

CMY sir,

just relax and have some sweet dreams.and get up later with new energy.
Stay Bless

Naveed KSA replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:20 PM PST 

CMY Sb,
I think this can be control or reduced by putting some check while posting any text on this portal, like email address must while posting any ad and confirmation code should be send to email to activate the post.
same thing happened here on expat.com
just an idea as I am not an IT expert so don't know the other effects...

Zafar Iqbal replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:21 PM PST 

Dear CMY Relax we all know about your niyat and most importantly Allah Knows every one niyat.

just remember if you are a good guy then you must face difficulties so DIL BURA MAT KARO AUR G BHAR JIYO


I would like to say you something (summary of my life learning habit) may be you got the point.

LOVE WITH OTHER AND DO GOOD FOR OTHERS....BUT....DON'T HOPE THAT OTHERS WILL LOVE YOU AND WILL DO GOOD FOR YOU.


so if you are doing good for others then just keep doing it and dont think about bad people.

Amir Khan replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:45 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

The world is full of people, both good and bad. You have to expect and accept that like any field of life, here too there would be a proportionate representation of such elements. But there should be checks and balances to ensure decency, respect and discipline is maintained while accessing this website. Adding suitable filteration and cleansing process could provide solution to this issue.
In the end, you are doing a commendable job, backed up by a good
team of professionals. This may be the only forum, where everyone can ask a question ( even not property related) and expect a genuine answer from righteous persons. So keep up the good work and turn adversity to opportunity. Together we all can make a difference. Unity in Diversity. Cheers.

Faisal UK replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:46 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

You are doing a great job by running this informative platform.Ignore these illiterate people.
delete all his posts and run the web site with rules.

We all are with you.

Regards,

SalmanKhan replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:16 PM PST 

why not have 4-5 admins of this group who check it regularly for any such issue

investor replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:20 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

I think you are talking about me (investor name). First all let me very much clear that I never posted with different names. I am sure you got confused. I have no link with other names like galyan and fatwey and they are someone else.

Secondly, I swear by GOD that dealer called me and ask me to sell file as soon as possible and same words as I mentioned in my question. Yes you can say my question was like a 5 year old kids. But everyone is not by birth 50 years old. everyone get experience from the bad and good incidents. It is unfortunate that instead of criticizing that dealer who was trying to mislead me and my other fellows of as you said 5 years old kids, you are criticizing me. I don't know what was wrong in my simple question that hurt you. But, I think you should respect the new comers in property as well instead of insult them without any solid reason. I am not a fake person, I am not an IT expert, I never posted on your website except one question today. So, may be you feel yourself as guru of this market and you are the great fairest person in the world of property but remember the property dealer who called me is also your community.

It was necessary to clear my position, again sorry if anyone hurt

Khizer Inayat replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:32 PM PST 

Dear CMY, I would recommend to use https://disqus.com/websites/ for your site or try starting a new site using this service. It will be very interactive and management will be much easier.

Shahzad Qamar replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 10:49 PM PST 

CMY, you are really an outstanding guy and your untiring efforts are truely appreciating. after watching posts during last week I understand now why you decided to opt for blocking. Thats why I earlier requested to allow registration of users through their emails this way its very easy to block users. but you already informed it did not work in past....hoping for best and thanks for keeping this website alive for 100s of users who need information on real estate.

CMY replied on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:42 AM PST 

investor sahib thanks for talking with sense. I got your point. Lets take a new start. I may have made some mistake too unknowingly so my apology if I hurt your feelings.



Choudry Mujahid Yasin
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